Polar Teaser 2 – Polar M460 Bike Computer

Polar M460 Tease

Polar introduces the M460 (almost, specs. & pictures available)

POLAR pioneer of wearable sports technology

On April 6, Polar placed another teaser video with dials turning to an “unkown” M4x?? number.
Followed by the text: “Prepare to welcome evolution. Your destiny awaits..”

The numbers seems to be turning to M460, not the new M430 Advanced running watch but Polar’s new GPS bike computer.

Two days ago i mentioned Polar would announce a new bike computer in my Stay tuned, Polar’s move post,  First they would announce their new M430 running watch but i didn’t expect they would be released almost together.

The M460 is the updated M450 and shares most functions. It appears the same in Polar Flow and the Training Load details are the same as the M450, Polar’s current bike computer .

Polar M460 Training load

Polar M460 GPS computer with Strava segments.

m460_front

A bike computer with integrated GPS and a black carbon look.

Main features of the Polar M460

  • Built-in GPS (Speed, distance, incline and route log)
  • Strava Live Segments
  • Barometric sensor (altitude and temperature)
  • Smart notifications
  • Up to 10 info screens with 4 configurable lines
  • 16h of training with GPS + HF
  • 11h of training with GPS + HF +  Cadence sensor + power sensor
  • Provides advanced power metrics
    • NP Standard power
    • FTP Functional Power Threshold
    • IF Intensity Factor
    • TSS Training Stress Score

 Specifications

  • Front LED Safety Light
  •  Smart Coaching Functions:
    • Fitness Test
    • Orthostatic Test
    • Training Benefit
    • Training Load & Recovery
    • Smart Calories
  • Compatible with BLE Polar H6, H7 and H10 heart rate sensors
  • Compatible with BLE Polar speed and cadence sensors
  • Compatible with third party platforms (Training Peaks, Strava, MyFitnessPal)
  • Compatible with Polar Flow App (iOS and Android) for quick analysis of training
    on the mobile and Polar Flow web service
  • Waterproof IPX7
  •  Upgradable Software

Versions (ships mid-April)

  • Polar M460 GPS with HR strap – €230,00
  • Polar M460 GPS – €180,00

At the same time i was editing the latest details of this post GPSRumours found the same information and made a post about it: GPS Rumours

April 6, Clevertraining has the sales page online before official announcement: Clevertraining

Polar Teasers

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Stay tuned, Polars move? – Polar M430

Garmin-april6

POLAR pioneer of wearable sports technology

Polar has posted a short video with someone running on the track and streets.
Only text: “Stay tuned > 6th April”

 

polar m430

We currently know it’s the new Polar M430, an advanced running watch with GPS and Wrist-based heart rate. According to Polar the Polar Flow web-service is already compatible with the M430.

Price will be $229.95, and it will be available in various colors (at least White, Gray and Orange)

More new can be found on the Polar site itself (starting 6 april): Polar M430

PolarM430 White
M430? (semi B/W picture or else the O from Polar should have been red)

Specifications:

  • Monochrome hi-res screen
  • Wrist optical heart rate sensor (6 leds)
  • Multiple sport profiles
  • Vibration alerts
  • No Android Wear

It looks like a V800 in a M400 housing with M600 oHR.

Line below can be downgraded as the source had to many faults on the M430 in my eyes.
It seems the source was average, it’s just how you read “hi-res” and “Multiple sport profiles” vs “multisport”
The current information suggests that the replacement for the V800 (not the Polar M430) would be no sooner than late autumn and the only other (interesting) product from Polar would be a bike computer (M460).

polar m430 white orange

Earlier today i just thought it could just be a firmware update of an existing watch, a re-announcement or a new accessoire. But maybe the long awaited replacement for the V800.

About updates planed by Polar we only know, Polar was rolling out
  • Sport watches as remotes
    With both the Polar V800 GPS Sports Watch and the Polar M600 Smart Sports Watch, users will be able to control their GoPro remotely, giving them the ability to start and stop recording in challenging conditions.
  • Telemetry and heart rate overlays
    With Polar’s new H10 heart rate sensor, users will be able to connect to HERO4 and HERO5 cameras via bluetooth and overlay telemetry and heart rate data directly onto their GoPro videos. According to Polar, functionality will begin rolling out soon between the HERO4 and the Polar V800. Later in 2017, support will expand to the Polar M600 and HERO5. Connectivity between both models and the Polar H10 will also be made available during the first quarter of 2017.

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Thanks to a Tip from a Finnish reader and David

Garmin introduces the Forerunner 935

It took a while but finally Garmin official released the Forerunner 935.
I think everything you read in the previous posts was true after-all.

  • Biggest uncertain point was the ABC sensor and it is good to see the forerunner 935 includes a full ABC (altimeter, barometer and compass) sensor.
  • One point to mention is the band.
    Under options Garmin mentions: QuickFit™ watch bands: Yes (22mm). The press release text: Compatible with optional Garmin QuickFit™ bands.
    Unless they did a last minute change a QuickFit™ watch band is NOT included.
  • Optical Swim HR Disabled, earlier i wrote the mode was enabled, later this was disabled on the Fenix 5 series as it seems the results where not good enough to allow logging. For the FR935 this remains the same: No optical HR during swim.

For al of the pictures have a look on a previous post as they haven’t changed the last weeks: Garmin – Forerunner 935 – All pictures

All official information is posted below, that’s it, we can now look forward to the next releases, all bike related.

Forerunner 935

The newest edition to the Forerunner family, the Garmin 935 is the ultimate tool for dedicated runners everywhere. Super concise data is a runner’s best friend and with the Forerunner 935 you’ll have all of the data you need. Multi-Sport dynamics (running, swimming, and cycling), VO2 Max, wrist-based heart rate, recovery time, race predictor, and more. The 935 also offers you more ways than ever to store and track your data. Use automatic uploads to Garmin Connect, or use Strava live segments to turn every run into a virtual race. The 935 is truly the most powerful Forerunner ever.

  • Premium GPS Running/Triathlon Watch with Wrist-based Heart Rate
  • Offers advanced running and multisport features in a comfortable watch you can wear all day, and it only weighs 49 grams
  • Provides elevation changes with a built-in barometer; altimeter and electronic compass help you keep your bearings
  • Evaluates your training status to indicate if you’re undertraining or overdoing it and offers additional performance monitoring features
  • Provides advanced dynamics for running, cycling and swimming, including ground contact time balance, stride length and more
  • Battery life: up to 2 weeks in watch mode, up to 24 hours in GPS mode or up to 50 hours in UltraTrac mode

Bundles

Watch Only – $499.99 – €549,99

  • Forerunner 935 GPS watch
  • Charging cable
  • Manuals

Tri-bundle – $649.99 – €699,99

The new running dynamics pod is not a part of the current Tri-bundle.
Personal i would rather have a bundle with the HRM-Tri and Running Dynamics Pod.

Main differences between Fenix 5 and Forerunner 935

Fenix 5 Forerunner 935
Lens Material glass or sapphire crystal glass
Bezel Material stainless steel fiber-reinforced polymer
QuickFit™ watch bands included (22 mm) optional  (22 mm)
Strap material silicone or steel silicone
Physical size 47 x 47 x 15.5 mm 47 x 47 x 13.9 mm
Weight silicone band: 85 g
metal band: 156 g
49 g
Water rating 10 ATM 5 ATM
Connectivity Bluetooth® Smart, ANT+™, Wi-Fi with sapphire editions Bluetooth® Smart, ANT+™, Wi-Fi®

Links

Garmin site: Forerunner 935

Garmin – Forerunner 935: Premium GPS Running and Triathlon WatchYouTube or YouTube

Rizknows: YouTube

Clever Training – Garmin Forerunner 935 – Hands on look:  YouTube

DC Rainmakers In-Depth review: link

Garmin – Forerunner 935: Getting Started: YouTube

Garmin – Forerunner 935: A Dedication with Ben True: YouTube

Garmin – Forerunner 935: A Dedication with Charlotte Morel: YouTube

Garmin – Forerunner 935: A Dedication with Ben Collins:  YouTube

Garmin – Forerunner 935: A Dedication with Steve Way:  YouTube

Garmin – Forerunner 935: A Dedication with Timothy O’Donnell: YouTube

Garmin Forerunner 935: A Dedication with Alessandro Fabian: YouTube

Compare the Fenix5s, Fenix5, Fenix 5X and Forerunner 935: Compare

Compare the Forerunner 735XT, 920XT and  935: Compare

Running Dynamics Pod: YouTube

 

 

Garmin News Release

 

Garmin® introduces the Forerunner® 935 – a premium GPS running and triathlon watch with performance monitoring and wrist-based heart rate

New Running Dynamics Pod provides running insights with greater freedom

OLATHE, Kan.–(BUSINESS WIRE)–Garmin International Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd. (NASDAQ: GRMN), today announced the Forerunner 935, a GPS running and triathlon watch with new performance monitoring tools and Elevate™ wrist-based heart rate technology1. In addition to 24/7 heart rate monitoring, the Forerunner 935 includes new training features, allowing users to fine-tune exercise and recovery to be a better athlete. Easily paired with the new Running Dynamics Pod2, Forerunner 935 users will now be able to see all six running dynamics without the need for a chest strap. At only 49 grams, every detail in its lightweight, comfortable design was chosen with the athlete in mind.

The Forerunner 935 is being announced in conjunction with a new print, digital and social campaign featuring 13 professional Garmin-sponsored elite runners and triathletes from across the world. The campaign showcases how the sophisticated dynamics offered by the Forerunner 935 help these athletes fine tune and elevate their training and be more competitive on race day.

“With similar features to the fēnix® 5 – our popular multisport GPS watch built for fitness, adventure and style – the Forerunner 935 is catered more towards athletes focused on performance and results,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin vice president of global consumer sales. “As a top-of-the-line GPS smartwatch, the Forerunner 935 not only provides users with insight into how their body is responding to fitness, but also offers data for every activity, allows them to automatically upload to Garmin Connect™, and is customizable with free apps, data fields and more from the Connect IQ™ store.”

New training features – with technology provided by Firstbeat – make it easier for Forerunner 935 users to monitor performance and better prepare for a race or training cycle. Training status automatically analyzes previous exercise and fitness levels to provide insight into how the athlete’s body is responding – letting them know if they are training productively, peaking or overreaching. Training load gives users an overview of their weekly activity and helps them determine if they are training in the right zone and whether their sessions are too easy or hard. Additionally, the new training effect metric tracks and reviews the aerobic and anaerobic benefit of a training session, letting athletes know how their training is improving their ability to push the limits. With these training features available at their fingertips, athletes can make adjustments and improvements to their training to become better, faster and more efficient come race day.

The Forerunner 935 allows users to go further with their running data. The simple-to-use and unobtrusive new Running Dynamics Pod clips to the waistband allowing athletes to see all six running dynamics – including cadence, ground contact time, stride length and more – on a compatible device3 without the need for a chest strap. The Forerunner 935 also features advanced dynamics to help with cycling and swim training4. While on a bike, it will track dynamics including power zones, time seated and standing, platform center offset and power phase. In the water5, the Forerunner 935 will track distance, stroke, pace, personal records and more.

With Elevate wrist-based heart rate, Forerunner 935 users have around-the-clock heart rate monitoring without the need for an additional strap. With GPS and GLONASS coverage, athletes can better track their activities in challenging environments than with GPS alone. Additionally, the Forerunner 935 includes ABC (altimeter, barometer and compass) sensor capabilities. The built-in altimeter provides real-time elevation information, while the barometer can predict weather changes by showing short-term trends in air pressure. The compass can help users keep their bearings whether they’re moving or not.

Athletes can easily transition between sports with the press of a button utilizing the auto or manual multisport feature. Additional built-in activities include hiking, trail running, skiing, paddle sports, golf and more. The Forerunner 935 is also compatible with the full line of Varia™ cycling awareness accessories, Vector™ pedal-based power meter system and Index™ smart scale.

Available on the Forerunner 935, Strava Live Segments allow users to view real-time results on a run or ride, leaderboard rankings and how their current effort compares to their PR. Starred Strava segments automatically sync with the Forerunner 935 for live feedback during an activity. Purchases of the Forerunner 935 will receive a 60-day trial of Strava Premium, and owners of Connect IQ compatible devices will receive a 30-day trial.

Installed on the Forerunner 935, the new TrainingPeaks app allows users to download free workouts directly to their watch, then view the workout in real time, complete with intensity targets and interval durations. Following a session, athletes can automatically sync their completed workout back to TrainingPeaks for a detailed analysis of their performance and to measure their progress toward their goals. Users can also customize their watch with data fields, watch faces, widgets and additional apps including Uber ETA (by Garmin) and AccuWeather MinuteCast® Minute by Minute Forecast in the Connect IQ store.

When paired with a compatible smartphone6, the Forerunner 935 automatically uploads to Garmin Connect, an online fitness community where users can track workouts, sleep patterns, join online challenges to compete against friends and earn virtual badges. GroupTrack allows users to keep tabs on those they train with, while LiveTrack lets loved ones follow along on runs and rides in real time.

The Forerunner 935 features up to 24 hours of battery life in GPS mode, up to 50 hours in UltraTrac™ battery saver mode and up to two weeks in watch mode. It is available in black for $499.99. A tri-bundle option – which includes a black watch face with force yellow strap, HRM-Tri, HRM-Swim, Quick Release Kit and additional strap in black – is available for $649.99. Compatible with optional Garmin QuickFit™ bands in leather, silicone or metal, the Forerunner 935 lets users go from workplace to workout – no tools required.

The ever-expanding Garmin fitness segment develops technologies to enhance and promote healthy and active lifestyles. Whether users are runners, cyclists, swimmers, multi-sport athletes, or simply looking to stay active throughout the day, there is a product that can help them reach their health and fitness goals.

For decades, Garmin has pioneered new GPS navigation and wireless devices and applications that are designed for people who live an active lifestyle. Garmin serves five primary business units, including automotive, aviation, fitness, marine, and outdoor recreation. For more information, visit Garmin’s virtual pressroom at garmin.com/newsroom, contact the Media Relations department at 913-397-8200, or follow us at facebook.com/garmin, twitter.com/garmin, or youtube.com/garmin.

 

Garmin – Forerunner 935 – All pictures

Garmin FR935 owners manual

Note: The link in the above picture is not working at the moment, it’s a part of the FCC-label document

Update: Official Released : Garmin introduces the Forerunner 935

 

Update: 2017, 22 march: Added scan from advertisement  Triathlete magazine (thanks: Webvan (Larry Lansford))

FR935 Adv crops

It seems the release a getting real close now.  The device was FCC-tested and the Federal Communications Commission published the report last Friday.
Last week we had the Clever Training in which Nick Chase showed the FR935.
Together with a complete set of pictures that got released by Garmin i think it could  be this week. On the other side a lot of people mention the Boston marathon (4 weeks from now) as a launch day.

(Remember:  i know nothing, wild guesses and everything found is floating on the web, for the best information you’ll have to find somebody with inside information (and then report it to me))

Some points from the documents

  • Transmitting methods:  ANT+, BLE & Wi-Fi
  • One of the samples is named 635, coincidence or will we see exact the same FR635  watch with less functionality ?

 

In the last picture are the side views of the Forerunner 935 and all 3 Fenix 5 watches. Not scaled to the right dimensions!

 

Previous posts about the FR935

ELEMNT BOLT & Garmin FR935 Video

Garmin – Forerunner 935 update

Garmin – Forerunner 935 / 635

 

ELEMNT BOLT & Garmin FR935 Video

Update: 2017, 15 march: Video removed from YouTube, placed some stills from that video
Update: 2017, 19 march: New set of pictures added to Garmin – Forerunner 935 – All pictures
Update: 2017, 29 march: Official Released : Garmin introduces the Forerunner 935

While watching some of the video’s on the Wahoo ELEMNT BOLT i saw a video of Clever Training in which Nick Chase, USAT certified coach and pro triathlete, takes a look at the new ELEMNT BOLT cycling computer from Wahoo Fitness.

That part is interesting but the watch on his left hand is even more interesting as he’s wearing the new yellow version of Garmin Forerunner 935 which is released very soon :-).

It seems like the video is removed about a day after first reporting it. A lot of links where placed to the movie after reading this post so it was not a great surprise. I could just re-upload the whole video (100MB) but i don’t think some people would like that, in the meantime i will place some cropped and uncropped stills.
If some of you want more evidence just leave a comment and i will add more with tips on how to recognize a FR935.

FR935 total

Previous information on the FR935

Garmin – Forerunner 935 update

Garmin – Forerunner 935 / 635

Garmin – Forerunner 935 update

fr935-press-release-1

Update: Official Released : Garmin introduces the Forerunner 935

It seems we’re getting close to the official release as the pictures are becoming available.
They pop up, stay up and then get removed. However i got the first before they where withdrawn again.
The two versions seen in the picture above are the:

  • Forerunner 935 Black/Black
  • Forerunner 935 Yellow/Black

Firmware

The firmware of the FR935 will be very close to the Fenix 5 series.
Meaning:

  • Advanced Performance Metrics
  • Advanced Running Dynamics
  • Compatible with Strava Live Segments
  • Outstanding Readability on the Run
  • Wrist-based Heart Rate
  • Dual Navigation Networks

Optical Swim HR NOT Disabled

update feb 15, 2017: Added Garmin confirmation quote.
update feb 28, 2017: Fact that the Fenix5 series still/again have swim OHR disabled may mean the quality and results are worse than expected. As result of this i wouldn’t be wondered if even this would be the same for the FR935.

Until now Garmin always turned off the optical HR when selecting a swim workout. With the release of the Forerunner FR935 this will NOT longer be the case.
Garmin does warn you to use a HRM-Tri or HRM-Swim for better results but the optical heart rate measurement  can be enabled during a swim workout.
This will also be the case for the Fenix 5 series which are about to be distributed.

Official Garmin quote:
Wrist heart rate accuracy during swimming is very limited. Garmin does not recommend using wrist heart rate during swimming activities and on some products, wrist heart rate monitoring is disabled while swimming. Garmin recommends using HRM-Swim™ or HRM-Tri™ heart rate monitors with compatible devices to track heart rate while swimming.

!! To the readers who can play with the Fenix 5 units at the various booths and shows they can verify the oHR is still/already working in swim mode on the demo units with certain firmware versions (confirmed: swim OHR disabled from user menus at launch)!!

(Advanced) Running Dynamics Pod (RDP)

update feb 15, 2017: It seems the pod was tested last week, picture added

Again it was no secret that Garmin was working on a new type of pod to update the existing one.
I didn’t pay any attention this unit as i thought it was a very advanced  future design not ready to be released. Then someone told me he would be more interested  in new/better/useful metrics than another new watch. I forwarded the mail and got some nice answers the last few weeks. Last info as of today (feb.15) is not to expect a too “advanced” pod.

I would think that with the launch of the Forerunner FR935 this would be a great combination to sell as bundle. Another reason for assuming the unit would be released already is the full support of this unit in the upcoming Fenix 5 series.

Technical Specifications
Physical size:L × W × H: 35 mm × 25 mm × 7.5 mm (excluding clip)
Weight: 11 g (including battery)
Battery: User replaceable CR2032

Garmin shop buy me now links (offline/removed for now)

Forerunner 935 (FR935): offline
Running Dynamic Pod (RDP): offline

Previous Forerunner 935 post

Read all about the Forerunner 935 in my previous post: FR935

Suunto, Garmin or Polar?

nextgen-suunto-garmin-polar-blur300

We already saw the Suunto Spartan Trainer months ago, recently followed by the Garmin FR935 but until now we didn’t see much of the “new V800”. The big question is: who will be first? All three watches are aimed at a higher sports watch level but the none of them has been announced. Suunto  will almost certain win on price, Garmin on features and Polar on the combo?